Reloading Dies & Presses
Everybody has their reasons as to the type and style of reloading
presses that they own. Conventional wisdom held that you should start
out with a single stage press and learn the basics of cartridge
reloading before moving on to a progressive press.
There is some wisdom in that and certainly some
people would be well served to follow such advice. If you are the type
of person who is not comfortable with machinery and multiple things
going on at one time then a progressive press may not be the best
choice starting out. However, if you are the kind of person who can
deal with multi-tasking well then there is no reason not to start out
on a progressive if that will fill your need for speed. And that
brings up another point. You can load perfect ammo on a single stage
press just as well as any high dollar progressive. What you pay for is
speed and as we all know that speed costs.
I started out on a great little semi progressive
press. A Ponsness Warren P200 that I still have and use. Its
actually faster and more useful for load development than my Dillon
650s and 1050. Once I have loads developed I set up the Dillons for
cranking out large volumes of ammo. A single stage is also useful
for doing low volume reloading for guns that you don’t need progressive
amounts of ammo for like Contenders and bolt action rifles and
specialty work like case forming and wildcats. If you get into
reloading seriously there is always room for a single stage in your
process.
As far as progressives go the three most well known
brands are Dillon, Hornaday, and Lee. Each has advantages and
disadvantages. Dillons are the most popular especially with their
lifetime no BS warranty. The early projector presses were plagued
with many indexing problems but my understanding now is that the
current Projector is as good as any other press available.
Over the years there were many attempts to produce
various kinds of progressive presses. Such as the RCBS Green Machine
and CH had their versions of an inline progressive press. A company out
of Ohio by the name of RDP produced a massive rotary progressive
called THE TOOL that eventually was motorized but the machine was
expensive and the company eventually closed. Ransom made a inline
progressive but I never saw one in the metal as it were.
No doubt that Mike Dillon set the standard with
progressive reloading with the 450 press, a refined version of his 300
series and eventually the 550 and the 550B became the world class
standard of reliable progressives still to this day. Dillons offerings
have changed much of the way most of us reload by giving us the ability
to turn out very large amounts of ammo very quickly and
reliably. Yes, I am a bit biased but the machines live up to
people expectations. I sold Dillon presses for about 3 years and they
were and are the overwhelming choice of most reloaders that load on
progressives.
I have been often asked about LEE's progressives and
I know people that have them and like them but the presses have always
been problematic for a lot of people. Those that have them and know
them well seem to do quite well with them but a large percentage of
others just can’t seem to get them to be consistent in their operation.
During the time I sold Dillon presses, the number of people that wanted
to trade in their Lee presses for Dillons was quite overwhelming and I
was surprised by that but I would only take other Dillons in on trade
for those that wanted to move up to a 650 or a 1050 press.
There are couple of tricks I can pass on to help
optimize the setup of a Dillon 550 or 650 press and I am working on a
1050 mod that should enhance its performance as well. I’ll tell you
more about that once I get it finished.
My die sets that I purchased for my presses were the
early versions of the Dillon die sets and several of the Redding
pro series die sets made for progressive presses (these are my favorite
dies). The new series dies from Dillon feature a quick release pin to
disassemble the die to facilitate cleaning but the seating die is now
too crude to get fine adjustments out of it so I don’t use them. One of
the ongoing complaints about loading on progressives is that the
finished rounds can vary by several thousandths in O.A.L. (Over all
length). The reason for this is simple. If you look at the press
while its in operation the compound linkage that is used to generate
the tons of force to size the case is actually causing the shell
plate to flex a bit out at the edges. Lets look at the shell plate
assembly on either the 550 or the 650 presses. The shell plate has
rotational capability by virtue of a shoulder bolt thru the center of
the shell plate. The shell plate has a clearance between itself and the
shell plate platform with a ball bearing in a recess that acts as a
stop between indexes. If you tighten the shell plate down too far you
cannot rotate the shell plate. Leave it too loose and the amount of
clearance between the outer edge of the shell plate and the center of
the shoulder bolt increases. Some leave it loose to make the indexing
faster and easier. But if one looks carefully at the edge of the plate
when you put a brass case there and size it you will see the case, flex
the plate down at that spot. Look at the opposite side of the shell
plate and that side will be moving upward with the shoulder bolt acting
as the pivot point. If you have the Dillon presses with the removable
tool heads you will also notice that there is clearance in the fit of
the tool head that will also have some looseness that contributes to
the overall problem.
When you have cases in all the stations the amount
of flex will be different than when you are just starting out with just
one case in the shell plate. When you seat the bullet into the case
this flex will cause the O.A.L. to vary from one round to the next.
Here’s how to correct it. When I set my dies up I set the press to
toggle over top dead center on the linkage. I screw the size die and
the seat die down to apply a small amount of pressure against the die
plate as the press toggles over top dead center. This will remove
most of the loose tolerances in the head and shell plate and will give
you much more consistent seating of the bullet and maintaining the
correct O.A.L. The seat die and the size die are opposite of each other
and thus act to support the shell plate and minimize flex and changes
in the setup.
Another area that I can’t stress enough about its
importance is the mounting of any press with a toggle linkage system
that generates the amount of force that these compound linkage systems
can generate. Solid mounting with solid bracing to the floor will make
the presses operation smoother and more effective. I had a customer
that had purchased a large Redding single stage press and was having
issues with cases that would not cycle through his bolt action
rifle. Some of the cases would cycle and chamber while others
would not despite the fact that he was full length resizing the
cases. He was perplexed by this and I went to his place to see what was
happening. He showed me the rifle and cases and how they would and
wouldn’t chamber. I told him to size some cases and I would watch
what would happen. As he operated the press, from time to time
the bench would flex as he pulled the handle but not always. Every time
the press flexed the bench those cases weren’t being resized fully even
though he was going over top dead center with the linkage system and
thus would not chamber. Upon proper bracing of the press the problem
went away.
When I started to reload I used RCBS dies and they
served me well for many years. The part about most of the die
manufacturers was that when you bought the standard three die set for
loading auto pistol cartridges you ended up with a seat and roll crimp
die. Not the best way to seat and crimp auto pistol cases. I ended up
buying a separate taper crimp die and used the other die for seating
only by backing out of the roll crimp. Today you can get 4 die
sets or die sets that give you a separate seat and crimp die for you
application especially if you are using a progressive
press. That’s why I favor the Pro Series die set from Redding for
a lot of my applications. The size die is Titanium carbide which is a
lot smoother and needs less force to size cases than the regular
carbide used by others and you get the seat die and the proper crimp
die for your cartridge application. For auto pistol loading you
get the taper crimp die and for revolver cartridge loading you get the
superb Profile crimp die which is a more secure roll type crimp than
standard roll crimp dies. This die is especially useful when
loading hard recoiling guns like .454 Casulls that had issues with
heavy bullets jumping their crimp under recoil and locking the gun up
with the bullet wedged between the cylinder mouth and the frame of the
gun. Not a good situation to have if you are banking on a gun like this
going up against dangerous game. The other added benefit to the
profile crimp die is that you get more complete burning of slower
burning powders and lower standard deviations. All in all Redding
makes some very good dies.
Another area of contention is that sometimes people
will see excessive bulges in their reloaded cases. Sometimes these
bulges are just on one side of the case while on others its all the way
around. The reason this happens is that if the bullet is seated a
bit crooked and the brass is not uniform and you are using a cast
bullet that is .001 over nominal diameter then you might see a bulge.
If the bulge is only cosmetic and doesn’t prevent its chambering and
functioning in the firearm I wouldn’t worry about it too
much. When brass cases are drawn (formed from brass cups and the
metal is drawn thru a die to elongate the brass to shape and size) the
process is never 100% uniform thus the cases are not even in thickness
all the way around. Some brass is better than others and some
brass is thinner than others and some brass is less ductile than others
and if you use mixed brass then you run the gamut of different problems
with such brass. In a lot of applications its not critical but if you
are shooting for a match then it might be wiser to have uniform brass.
There’s is a great tendency among reloaders to
not flare brass sufficiently to proper seat the bullet. Many people
falsely believe that by not excessively cold working the case mouth of
the brass that their brass will last much longer. It’s a false economy
as far as I’m concerned. When expanding the case mouth I like the
effect that Lyman's M die creates. It expands the opening of the case
mouth by a couple of thousandths creating a “shelf” inside the mouth of
the case that allows you to seat the bullet squarely into the brass
case. When used with a proper seat stem that properly matches the nose
profile of the bullet then the crooked seated bullet or excessive bulge
can be practically eliminated or minimized with these setups. Its
interesting to note that Redding offered such expanders in their
standard die sets and that Dillon started machining the same expansion
step into its powder drop funnels that also expand the cases.
Some people have resorted to using a Lee factory
crimp die with a carbide resize ring to “iron” out such bulges and
distortions while creating more distortions within the case and bullet
by resizing the bullet that didn’t need to be resized smaller. This is
a band aid approach to solving the problem instead of correcting the
problem the right way. I can’t recommend this solution.
In some situations you will find that because the
gun you have has oversize throats that you need oversize bullets and
you are going to end up with a bulge anyway. The Lee die would in such
cases destroy any hope for any accuracy under such conditions.
So that you don’t get the impression that I am 100%
opposed to Lee products the fact is there are several items and dies I
use with great success. I have several of their disk powder
measures as well as their hand prime tool which is excellent and I
recently discovered their factory crimp dies for rifles (these don’t
feature a carbide resize ring) for use in .223 and .308 auto loaders. I
also have their die sets for .444 marlin and 30/30 that work quite
well. Its just a matter that I pick what I deem to be the best from
each manufactures offerings.
Sometimes some of the bullets that we offer for
certain calibers can do dual duty in another cartridge when the bullet
is sized properly. For example The .40 cal 180 gr. bullet features a
crimp groove for use in .38/40 with a roll crimp and when used in .40
S&W the crimp groove is seated to below the case mouth and then
taper crimped, Conversely there are some auto pistol bullets that cross
over to revolver use but don’t feature a crimp groove so what is one to
do? There are two solutions. The first is to just apply a light
to moderate roll crimp to the outside of the bullet and that will work
well in most cases. OR you can get Taper crimp dies for revolver
calibers. I have taper crimp dies for all my revolver calibers for
light to moderate loads that don’t need a full roll crimp or when I use
an auto pistol bullet in a revolver case like the .45 230 gr. Truncated
Cone in .45 Long Colt. (Now before you e- mail me that there is
no such thing as.45 Long Colt I know its .45 Colt and .45 ACP. ) I
started to use the Long Colt designation due to much confusion in the
marketplace creating even more confusion among new or inexperienced
reloaders. With revolvers being chambered for auto pistol cartridges
and autos being chambered for revolver rounds it got to be quite an
issue when talking to customers on the phone or at gun shows and we
ended up talking about two different cartridges. The Long Colt
designation while not technically correct helps cut down on confusion
so that’s why I use it. My apologies to the purists out there.
Another
tip that may help you 9mm reloaders out there is that due to the nature
of the 9mm case being a tapered case the carbide size ring that is used
in the size dies has to be made full length to fully resize the cases.
(That’s the reason why 9mm dies in carbide cost more than other carbide
dies from the same company.) Because it is full length it takes more
force to resize 9mm cases and if you are loading a lot of them it can
take its toll on your arm after a while. To help ease things along a
little bit of spray on case lube will make the resize process a lot
easier even if you are using carbide dies. There are a number of
spray on lubes that work well. I happen to favor RCBS’s Case Slick for
most of my rifle reloading but have used others equally well when
loading 9mm. Some people will use a bit of case lube on all of
their cartridges regardless of the caliber or case while some will just
lube a few during the reloading process. Whatever works best for you is
the way to go.
The powder drop on the Dillon presses is
designed to work the best with ball type powders and doesn’t always
meter well with the flake powders. One of the things you can do is to buy a small
vibratory air pump used in aquariums and attach that to the powder
measure with tape, rubber bands or a worm drive clamp. The vibration
will assist in making the powder charges more uniform especially with
the smaller charges. The pump is about 6-8 bucks and is a cheap but
useful upgrade.
The Hornaday uses a rotary drum and is less likely to have
such issues but would probably benefit from the pump as well.
The Lee uses
their Disc measure system and that works surprisingly quite well. I
have several of the Lee disc measures for use on the Ponsness Warren
press that I have for load development. The only drawback is if you
want a charge that the disc doesn’t cover. Lee makes a stacking kit
that allows you to get different charge weights but I never found it to
work well. Some company did come out with a adjustable charge bar
for the Lee but I never got to try one.
RCBS makes a case activated linkage kit for their
excellent Uniflow powder measure and that can be retrofitted onto a
Dillon press if needed to handle some powders that the Dillon doesn’t
handle well such as extruded powders like the IMR series.
Finally if you are tired of using a wrench to adjust
the Dillon powder charge bar there is a winged cap that will snap onto
the head of the bolt of the charge bar available at the Home Depot.
This allows you to change the setting with just your fingers. They come
in black and white. I use the white ones and use a magic marker to put
a curved arrow on the head of the knob to indicate which way increases
or decreases the powder charge. (Its opposite of the way you think.
Turning left increases while right decreases it.) There is a
company called Unique Tek that has a very good led light with a rubber
fitting that fits into the hole on the head of the 550 and 650 presses
that beautifully illuminates the whole shell plate while you are
loading. I think it’s a worthwhile investment as it puts the light
right where you need it the most. The also offer a countdown timer for
your tumbler and I have a couple of those that I use for that and other
things. Very useful. Check them out at
http://www.uniquetek.com.
I’ll be adding more to this section in the future so
keep checking back.
Thank you for letting me be of service
to you,
Bob Palermo / President. president@pennbullets.com
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